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ewelin
Aug 27, 2010, 04:16 PM
Was at The Home Depot the other day and saw their $20 EcoSmart dimmable LED and thought I'd do a little research on it before picking one up. Looks pretty promissing and have a 5 year warranty. Looks promising although I really want a 60watt.

Source: http://www.edn.com/blog/PowerSource/39582-Home_Depot_s_20_EcoSmart_LED_light_What_s_inside_. php

Home Depot’s $20 EcoSmart LED light: What’s inside?

August 12, 2010
Several weeks ago Home Depot introduced its new EcoSmart dimmable LED (http://www.homedepot.com/Lighting-Fans-Light-Bulbs-LED/EcoSmart/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhcZbmg0Z4b8/R-202188260/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=100) replacement light for a 40W incandescent for $20 with a 5-yr guarantee. The light works great – nice, warm-ish, diffuse light, dims perfectly, no noise.
What’s inside? Let’s see…
The light has a hard plastic dome-shaped outer shell. Here’s our first glimpse of the LEDs used:
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/img_3041_sm.jpg
Not the usual intense light sources we’ve seen in other LED lights: These are large surface-area LEDs that make for a very pleasant diffuse light source. And the light only requires two of them to put out 429 lumens at 8.6W.
Here’s a close-up of the LEDs - I removed one to look for a manufacturer’s label or mark, since Lighting Science Group (http://www.lsgc.com/), the bulb’s designer, doesn’t want to divulge its suppliers.
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/leds-separate_sm.jpg
Compare it to the non-dimmable 7.5W bulb I took apart in February (http://www.edn.com/blog/PowerSource/36336-7W_LED_bulb_spills_its_guts_lives_to_light_another _day.php), with its 7 LEDs that put out (according to the specs on the packaging) 560lm.
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/7-led-light.jpg
Well, I couldn’t find a manufacturer’s label, but there is an apparent part number; AM6L1, and the part looks like an LED array, meaning that, rather than a single emitter, the LED packages up several tiny LED chips in one package and cover them with a single phosphor. It’s a good choice to use such a diffused light source – no pixilation.
But whose LEDs does the light use? Here’s a link to the Citizen’s LED catalog (http://ce.citizen.co.jp/lighting_led/dl_data/catalog/Catalog_P745_0610_E.pdf). (Citizen is a Japanese LED manufacturer.) It looks like AM6L1 deconstructs to this 6W LED array, meaning that the Ecosmart light derates its two LEDs and runs them at well under 6W each, which is a smart move.
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/citizen-6w-led-array.jpg
Moving on – let’s look at the drive circuitry. Whoa – the electronics are all encapsulated! This is a good design choice for Lighting Science, since it cushions the electronics from all of the vibrations inherent in a small, easily accessed light bulb, but it’s not so nice for us, as we peer into the guts. No matter – the encapsulation material came off fairly easily, exposing all of the drive electronics.
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/img_3069_sm.jpg
Now the big question is – who’s LED driver/dimming IC does the light use??
The most promising IC – ie, the one with the most leads — is a 10-pin MSOP with a cryptic “SULB” on the top. (U1 at the top of the board in the photo below.) A brisk Google search reveals “SULB” as the “Top Mark” for National’s LM3445 triac-dimmable LED driver (http://www.national.com/pf/LM/LM3445.html). (PDF of app sheet (http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM3445.pdf) with SULB.) I could see only one electrolytic capacitor: a 50uF Nichicon rated at 105°C. (The black capacitor-like components are inductors.)
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/img_3079_sm.jpg
The e-cap (just partially visible to the right) is potential weak link and this design uses a good-quality part. Compared to other LED lights, this one has relatively little hand-soldering. As we know from Geoff Potter’s research (http://www.edn.com/article/457596-Burn_out_Weak_links_affect_HB_LED_lifetime.php), solder joints are the Achilles’ heel of LED lighting reliability. Going with a highly-integrated LED driver part like the LM3445 in itself gets rid of a lot of solder joints.
Now let’s go back to the heat sink. The metal baseplate of the LEDs mount directly on the finned metal heatsink using a dab of thermal grease.
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/img_3058_sm.jpg
http://blogs.cancom.com/elogic_1470000147/files/2010/08/img_3051_sm.jpg
(Referring to the previous 7-LED light example, the LEDs sat on a metal-core substrate and then on a flexible thermal interface before mounting on the heat sink.) Ecosmart uses a simple approach that gets the heat out of the LEDs as quickly as possible.
Its overall design philosophy seems to be to increase reliability by reducing the parts count and thus the associated solder points.
For more on the importance of solder joints as a likely culprit for LED light reliability issues, here’s an article that interviews Geof Potter (http://www.edn.com/article/457596-Burn_out_Weak_links_affect_HB_LED_lifetime.php), LED reliability expert with TI.
Better yet, attend EDN’s “Designing with LEDs” Workshop in Chicago this September 29th and hear Geof speak in person. More information and register here (http://bit.ly/9HYqli).

Posted by Margery Conner (http://www.edn.com/blog/profile/8923-Margery_Conner.php) on August 12, 2010

kwilcox
Sep 06, 2010, 11:28 AM
Also very interested in these!

The 60 watt equivalent version (770 lumens output) is coming in Q3 and will cost about $30. These lights are made by Lighting Science Group (http://www.lsgc.com). They have an exclusive retail agreement with Home Depot.

I was kind of hoping somebody had picked up a 40 watt equiv since I was interested in how soft the color temp was. The specs say they are about 3000 - 3100K which is a bit hotter than standard 2700K bulbs.

kwilcox
Sep 06, 2010, 03:26 PM
I just bought one off the website. I'll post back when I've had a chance to review it.

ewelin
Sep 06, 2010, 03:27 PM
the 40w or 60w equivalent?

kwilcox
Sep 06, 2010, 06:13 PM
40watt equivalent. Website says "Online only" but I stopped by the store and there they were. So, I got 3 for my bathroom fixture to replace the 9 watt CFLs (also 40 watt equivalent) that were there previously. This is a 3 bulb downward facing "tulip" style fixture.

They definitely are a bit cooler at 3000K vs. 2700K but this works well in a bathroom; I actually prefer this color temp there as its closer to natural sunlight. I don't think I'd put these in the living room but for a range hood light or basement overhead light, they would be perfect.

Light output was identical to the CFLs but not as omni-directional. These bulbs would work best in downward facing fixtures since they don't throw any light at all to speak of at angles greater than perpendicular to the bulb.

edit:

These lamps dim all the way to 1% with zero flicker. The dimming CFLs that I use turn off at 20-30% with bad flickering in between. Also, I just put two in a floor lamp in the living room and I have to say that they look real good there too. I replaced two 60 watt equiv. CFls that ran at 40% brightness. The LED lights needed to be set at 65% to produce the same illumination. Way cool.

ewelin
Sep 06, 2010, 10:52 PM
Did you pick them up at Home Depot or a different store? It's good to know that they run pretty good like that. I have 3 dimmable CFLs in our living room overhead light that I wouldn't mind swapping out. Not sure if 40w equivalent would be enough light in there though.

kwilcox
Sep 07, 2010, 09:48 AM
I picked them up at Home Depot.

kjbbasic
Jul 13, 2011, 11:44 PM
BTW, Home Depot is now selling the Philips 75W LED (A19) replacement bulbs.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202920469/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

...and, at least at the Home Depot near me (but not online?), the 60W replacement in the same family is now 19.97

Funky looking lights but I have a few of the 60W and they work great, incl dimming with Insteon.

Tried Sylvania 60W A19/typ screw-in replacement (Lowe's carries these) didn't play well with dimmer...

FYI,
Ken

kjbbasic
Jul 13, 2011, 11:52 PM
Not that I think it makes much of a difference...but could in some tight spaces... the 75W is A21 shape...slightly larger/diff in shape than the 60W A19

I don't have/have not tried the new 75W yet.

Ken

ewelin
Jul 14, 2011, 07:24 PM
I'll have to check them out next time I'm in the store.

Thanks for the heads up.

kjbbasic
Jul 20, 2011, 08:02 PM
Follow-up: I got a couple 75w equiv lights. They are indeed the "long neck" type of std bulb (A shape, Med base). 17W, 1100 Lumen rated, 2700K, dimmable. Nice lights...other than they remind me of "bug lights" when off (I bet the marketing folks love this!)...but inside a frosted enclosure or shade they are fine....and, of course, are "soft white" when on.

...and they will last 1 BILLLION years*

* Based on .01ms/day of use :)